Forgive and Forget

February 23, 2014

First Aired: December 11, 2011

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At least forgive OR forget.  Get things behind you.  All good advice for those who don’t want their life dominated by the bad things that have happened to them at the hands of others. This advice has also been applied to aggrieved populations following liberating reforms and revolutions, as in South Africa.  But what is forgiveness?  What are its limits?  Does it make sense to forgive those who attempt genocide, for example?  Does forgiveness entail a sacrifice of pride and dignity?  John and Ken let bygones be bygones with their guest, Paul Hughes from the University of Michigan-Dearborn.

Professor Cora Diamond joins John and Ken to think about what, if anything, could count as sacred anymore. Cora puts forward a working definition of the sacred as the sphere of things that are off limits to human intervention, things towards which we ought to hold an attitude of awe. Actions that interfere with these sacred things are what we call taboo. Ken wants to know what the difference is between taboos based on a recognition of the objectively sacred, and those based on mere ignorance or disgust.

Several audience members take to the microphones to offer their opinions and questions. One offers an evolutionary explanation for our concepts of sacredness and taboos. Another wants to know if asking friends and family to enjoy psychedelic mushrooms grown from his grave would be a violation of the sacred.

In the final segment of the show, our hosts consider the connection between the sacred and nature, and between taboos and arrogance. For example, Professor Diamond suggests that breeding turkeys in a way that prevents them from performing their natural actions—walking, having sex, etc.—is a violation of the sacred. In Hume’s day, many felt that diverting a river was a profane act, because it involved altering God’s plans. A secular person today might not feel this way, but they still might think that it is was arrogant (and dangerous) for the Army Corps of Engineers to think they could control the Mississippi river. Yet is this feeling that to do something would be arrogant enough to hold up to someone as a reason not to do it? Does it carry the normative force that we think a conception of the sacred ought to? And most importantly, what about those psychedelic mushrooms?

  • The 60-Second Philosopher: (seek to 50:04) Ian Shoales ruminates on the sacred in America. His list includes sacred spaces (mostly where a lot of people died), comic book collections stored in hermetically sealed vaults, and cult classics.
  • Roving Philosophical Report: (seek to 6:43) Caitlin Esch takes to the streets of Portland to find out about the substance and science of taboos. She learns about the benefits and difficulties of breaking the taboo against having multiple partners from Brian Bloom, the facilitator of a polyamory group. Also, Allison Burns-Glover, a professor of Psychology at Pacific University, talks about the physiological response to seeing someone break a taboo.

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Paul Hughes, Professor of Philosophy, University of Michigan-Dearborn

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  • Is Nothing Sacred Anymore?

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